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		<title>Comment on 10th Circuit En Banc Denies Review of Highway Cross Case by deca durabolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>deca durabolin</dc:creator>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But i want to tell that this secularlaw.org is extremely helpful, Thanks for taking your time to write this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pledge Allegiance to the Constitution by Sandra</title>
		<link>http://secularlaw.org/2011/09/07/pledge-allegiance-to-the-constitution/#comment-1545</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on 10th Circuit En Banc Denies Review of Highway Cross Case by Bob Ritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Ritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 01:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Eric, you correctly point out that the cross is not integral to all Christian sects. Indeed, U.S. District Court Judge David Sam, noting that 57% of Utah residents are Mormon, wrote as one of the stipulated facts: &quot;Neither the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints nor its members use the cross as a symbol of their religion or in their religious practices.&quot; He subsequently used these facts to argue that the defendants did not have a religious purpose for using the cross: &quot;It would be unprecedented judicial divination for this court to nevertheless discern that the UHPA directors or state officials were intending to promote those minority [Christian] religions [in Utah] through the use of the cross design.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problem with Judge Sam&#039;s logic is that while Mormons do not use the cross as a symbol of their faith, they nevertheless recognize the cross as a Christian symbol and are not offended by it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would also note that the U.S. Dept. of Veteran Affairs officially recognizes the Latin cross as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cem.va.gov/hm/hmemb.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; emblem of belief&lt;/a&gt; of Christianity. I further submit that if the Latin cross appears on a grave stone at a cemetery, it signifies that a Christian is buried there. To test of this view, I visited a Jewish cemetery earlier this year and, not surprisingly, not a single grave marker had a cross on it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, you correctly point out that the cross is not integral to all Christian sects. Indeed, U.S. District Court Judge David Sam, noting that 57% of Utah residents are Mormon, wrote as one of the stipulated facts: &#8220;Neither the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints nor its members use the cross as a symbol of their religion or in their religious practices.&#8221; He subsequently used these facts to argue that the defendants did not have a religious purpose for using the cross: &#8220;It would be unprecedented judicial divination for this court to nevertheless discern that the UHPA directors or state officials were intending to promote those minority [Christian] religions [in Utah] through the use of the cross design.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem with Judge Sam&#8217;s logic is that while Mormons do not use the cross as a symbol of their faith, they nevertheless recognize the cross as a Christian symbol and are not offended by it.</p>
<p>I would also note that the U.S. Dept. of Veteran Affairs officially recognizes the Latin cross as the <a href="http://www.cem.va.gov/hm/hmemb.asp" rel="nofollow"> emblem of belief</a> of Christianity. I further submit that if the Latin cross appears on a grave stone at a cemetery, it signifies that a Christian is buried there. To test of this view, I visited a Jewish cemetery earlier this year and, not surprisingly, not a single grave marker had a cross on it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 10th Circuit En Banc Denies Review of Highway Cross Case by Eric Alan Isaacson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Alan Isaacson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 03:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although you refer to the Latin cross as &quot;the preeminent symbol of Christianity,&quot; that has not always been the case.  

As I recall, New England&#039;s Puritan founders generally rejected the cross as a symbol that they connected with the Roman Church, and with what the Puritans regarded as idolatry.

The Puritans&#039; aversion to the cross was indeed so great that Governor John Winthrop recorded in his journal how, on coming to a place marked &quot;Hue&#039;s Cross&quot; because it was there that travelers customarily crossed over a river, â€œbeing displeased at the name, in respect that such things might hereafter give the Papists occasion to say, that their religion was first planted in these parts,&quot; he promptly &quot;changed the name, and called it Hueâ€™s Folly.â€  1 JOHN WINTHROP, WINTHROPâ€™S JOURNAL â€œHISTORY OF NEW ENGLANDâ€ 1630-1649, at 94 (James Kendall Hosmer, ed.; New York: Charles Scribnerâ€™s Sons, 1908).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although you refer to the Latin cross as &#8220;the preeminent symbol of Christianity,&#8221; that has not always been the case.  </p>
<p>As I recall, New England&#8217;s Puritan founders generally rejected the cross as a symbol that they connected with the Roman Church, and with what the Puritans regarded as idolatry.</p>
<p>The Puritans&#8217; aversion to the cross was indeed so great that Governor John Winthrop recorded in his journal how, on coming to a place marked &#8220;Hue&#8217;s Cross&#8221; because it was there that travelers customarily crossed over a river, â€œbeing displeased at the name, in respect that such things might hereafter give the Papists occasion to say, that their religion was first planted in these parts,&#8221; he promptly &#8220;changed the name, and called it Hueâ€™s Folly.â€  1 JOHN WINTHROP, WINTHROPâ€™S JOURNAL â€œHISTORY OF NEW ENGLANDâ€ 1630-1649, at 94 (James Kendall Hosmer, ed.; New York: Charles Scribnerâ€™s Sons, 1908).</p>
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